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	<title>Comments on: Real Estate Tidbits: Gardens More Than a Labor of Love</title>
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		<title>By: Jonah A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonah A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Profits based on pre arrangments made at time of investments.

Normally 1/3 each, after costs are settled.

Profts are divded after all actual costs involved.  So first, all receipts must be settled.  Investor 1, and even 2 and 3 may have made payments necessary (preferrably as agreed), and will be paid off.

Investor one received quid pro quo benefits by living at the site and in turn was responsible for a degree of on site presence (such as overall supervision and being on site daily).  But investor 1 is entitled to receive compensation for actual trade work at a rate prearranged to.  Some people would say that investor one should not get a bigger cut, and they would be right.  But investor one can file a receipt for payment of actual work (such as building something, or doing certain specific measurable jobs, like laying tile, carpentry, even painting).  Cleanings, supervising, worrying, running errands, grappling with issues, and being a hero do not count as tangible work, unless pre-arranged to as the &quot;general contractor&quot; payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Profits based on pre arrangments made at time of investments.</p>
<p>Normally 1/3 each, after costs are settled.</p>
<p>Profts are divded after all actual costs involved.  So first, all receipts must be settled.  Investor 1, and even 2 and 3 may have made payments necessary (preferrably as agreed), and will be paid off.</p>
<p>Investor one received quid pro quo benefits by living at the site and in turn was responsible for a degree of on site presence (such as overall supervision and being on site daily).  But investor 1 is entitled to receive compensation for actual trade work at a rate prearranged to.  Some people would say that investor one should not get a bigger cut, and they would be right.  But investor one can file a receipt for payment of actual work (such as building something, or doing certain specific measurable jobs, like laying tile, carpentry, even painting).  Cleanings, supervising, worrying, running errands, grappling with issues, and being a hero do not count as tangible work, unless pre-arranged to as the &quot;general contractor&quot; payment.</p>
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		<title>By: bigmacfann</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigmacfann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the same boat and looking to buy my first property as well.

I set it up as an LLC.

Sole Proprietor is generally a bad move in my opinion as it offers no protection of personal assets should something happen to that property.

If you want to send me an email through the system here, I&#039;m more than happy to chat about what I&#039;ve done, who I&#039;ve talked to, and what contacts I&#039;ve made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m in the same boat and looking to buy my first property as well.</p>
<p>I set it up as an LLC.</p>
<p>Sole Proprietor is generally a bad move in my opinion as it offers no protection of personal assets should something happen to that property.</p>
<p>If you want to send me an email through the system here, I&#039;m more than happy to chat about what I&#039;ve done, who I&#039;ve talked to, and what contacts I&#039;ve made.</p>
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		<title>By: michael m</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 07:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo answers is probably the wrong place for your question.  It&#039;s too important.

If you really want to find your answer online try www.justanswer.com.  This is a pay per question site where the questions are answered by verified industry professionals.

Once you have an idea of what you should do, I&#039;d suggest confirming it with your local tax agent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo answers is probably the wrong place for your question.  It&#039;s too important.</p>
<p>If you really want to find your answer online try <a href="http://www.justanswer.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.justanswer.com</a>.  This is a pay per question site where the questions are answered by verified industry professionals.</p>
<p>Once you have an idea of what you should do, I&#039;d suggest confirming it with your local tax agent.</p>
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		<title>By: MRLOVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>MRLOVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REITs have had a great run these last several years.  Be aware it may not continue.  I do not know the best one.  But there are some index funds of REITs.  Think about investing in those.  They were among the best performing REITs this year.

RWR and VNQ and IYR.  Each is up about 38% ytd.  Sort of a broad brush approach to picking the best.  Just pick them all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REITs have had a great run these last several years.  Be aware it may not continue.  I do not know the best one.  But there are some index funds of REITs.  Think about investing in those.  They were among the best performing REITs this year.</p>
<p>RWR and VNQ and IYR.  Each is up about 38% ytd.  Sort of a broad brush approach to picking the best.  Just pick them all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason252</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason252</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need a team.

See if there are any real estate investment groups in your town. Google it.

Then go to yahoo groups, msn groups and google groups and search for real estate investment groups in your community.

Find out when they meet and go sit in on the meetings. Don&#039;t discuss your plans until you know who you&#039;re dealing with. You&#039;re there to learn first, network second, and do business third.

Your goal is to build your team (investors - contractors - etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need a team.</p>
<p>See if there are any real estate investment groups in your town. Google it.</p>
<p>Then go to yahoo groups, msn groups and google groups and search for real estate investment groups in your community.</p>
<p>Find out when they meet and go sit in on the meetings. Don&#039;t discuss your plans until you know who you&#039;re dealing with. You&#039;re there to learn first, network second, and do business third.</p>
<p>Your goal is to build your team (investors &#8211; contractors &#8211; etc)</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your best bet, and it is a bet since gambling is involved, is to start an investment club.  This would probably be local and you could have meetings etc.  Just open a bank account under the name to be used.  Collect investment money and go for it.

Now an investment fund would give the idea of a mutual fund.  A lot of time and red tape involved with selling stock on the market.  This would also cost you the start up and leave nothing for investing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your best bet, and it is a bet since gambling is involved, is to start an investment club.  This would probably be local and you could have meetings etc.  Just open a bank account under the name to be used.  Collect investment money and go for it.</p>
<p>Now an investment fund would give the idea of a mutual fund.  A lot of time and red tape involved with selling stock on the market.  This would also cost you the start up and leave nothing for investing.</p>
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		<title>By: jeffnicolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffnicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are right on starting as a corporation.

HOWEVER...as legalities vary from state to state on private investors, I think you really need to find a good small business attorney in your area, pay him a fee, and find out the in&#039;s and out&#039;s from there.  A lot to consider with investors.  1)  Are they going to be silent partners?  Or 2) Are they going to have an equal say in how the company is run?  Would be worth the fee.to find a good business attorney to lay it all out for you.  Or find a book on amazon about starting a business.  Once you are using someone elses&#039; money, the company is no longer yours exclusively, unless you have a proven track record and your investors are willing to leave you in full control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are right on starting as a corporation.</p>
<p>HOWEVER&#8230;as legalities vary from state to state on private investors, I think you really need to find a good small business attorney in your area, pay him a fee, and find out the in&#039;s and out&#039;s from there.  A lot to consider with investors.  1)  Are they going to be silent partners?  Or 2) Are they going to have an equal say in how the company is run?  Would be worth the fee.to find a good business attorney to lay it all out for you.  Or find a book on amazon about starting a business.  Once you are using someone elses&#039; money, the company is no longer yours exclusively, unless you have a proven track record and your investors are willing to leave you in full control.</p>
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